and certainly the president and secretary clinton and secretary panetta, certainly those people did not want them hurt, but it's important to learn from history. it's important to understand what difference it makes as to what happened -- what happens about fiascos that get americans killed. it is important and does make a difference. we read reports that ambassador rice may have been involved with the decision not to send more security to our embassy that was attacked back in the 1990's that got americans killed and apparently no one learned from that, because if someone in the 1990's after our embassy had been attacked and had adequate hearings and gotten to the bottom of that, they would have learned what difference does it make, well, it makes a difference because we know when an embassy requests security and refuse to provide it, there's a good chance they are going to get hit and going to get killed and would have been helpful to have that conventional wisdom and the institutional knowledge on 9/10 of 2012 when we were hearing if you don't release the blind sheik, you are going to